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those parents, the school that bent all too easily to satisfy their.. um.. idiosyncratic whims, science as a religion... i don't even know where to begin with this one...

Thursday, January 11, 2007

Federal Way schools restrict Gore film
'Inconvenient Truth' called too controversial

By ROBERT McCLURE AND LISA STIFFLER
P-I REPORTER

This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert "An Inconvenient Truth."



After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a PowerPoint presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings.

"Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher," said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. "The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD."

Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night.

"Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech," said Larson, a lawyer. "The beauty of our society is we allow debate."

School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a "credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented," that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an "opposing view."

The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said.

"What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' " Barney said.

Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, "if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice."

Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. "It's only a theory," he said.

While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus.

"In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations," states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers.

"Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice."

The basics of that position are backed by the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academy of Sciences.

Laurie David, a co-producer of the movie, said that this is the first incident of its kind relating to the film.

"I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision," David said in a prepared statement. "There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now."

The Federal Way incident started when Hardison learned that his daughter would see the movie in class. He objected.

Hardison and his wife, Gayla, said they would prefer that the movie not be shown at all in schools.

"From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all," Gayle Hardison said. "If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown."

Scientists say that Americans, with about 5 percent of the world's population, emit about 25 percent of the globe-warming gases.

Larson, the School Board member, said a pre-existing policy should have alerted teachers and principals that the movie must be counterbalanced.

The policy, titled "Controversial Issues, Teaching of," says in part, "It is the teacher's responsibility to present controversial issues that are free from prejudice and encourage students to form, hold and express their own opinions without personal prejudice or discrimination."

"The principal reason for that is to make sure that the public schools are not used for indoctrination," Larson said.

"Students contacted Wednesday said they favor allowing the movie to be shown.

"I think that a movie like that is a really great way to open people's eyes up about what you can do and what you are doing to the planet and how that's going to affect the human race," said Kenna Patrick, a senior at Jefferson High School.

When it comes to the idea of presenting global warming skeptics, Patrick wasn't sure how necessary that would be. She hadn't seen the movie but had read about it and would like to see it.

"Watching a movie doesn't mean that you have to believe everything you see in it," she said.

Joan Patrick, Kenna's mother, thought it would be a good idea for students to see the movie. They are the ones who will be dealing with the effects of a warmer planet.

"It's their job," she said. "They're the next generation."
P-I reporter Robert McClure can be reached at 206-448-8092 or robertmcclure@seattlepi.com.

-- Edited by squishy at 15:20, 2007-01-11

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oh. my. god.

I'm sorry, I get really pissed off at people who do stuff like this. I was angry enough when, in high school, a classmate's parent complained that our Latin teacher shouldn't teach us about roman birth control methods because I went to a Catholic school. Our Latin teacher taught us a whole lot about every aspect of the culture, so no one else found it odd. These same parents complained to the bishop when they discovered that the senior year of high school was the year that our Religion class stopped teaching about Catholocism, and gave a brief overview of other prominent world religions. They said that the school was trying to convert us all away from Catholocism, and so our Religion classes consisted of watching movies for a straight month while the bishop and our teacher worked out a new curriculum.

Anyway, I'm rambling off the point. I was angry enough when all of that happened, I would be LIVID if I went to the school in the article.

It would be one thing if this was a strict Christian school. It would be ridiculous even then, but I could understand the school only teaching what the crazy conservative Christian parents believed (for the record, until college I went to Catholic schools all my life. Never once did they try to feed me any of this bullshit. All we were taught was evolution and science) but in a public school I think that's outright wrong. If every school taught every crackpot idea that someone had, no one would ever graduate from any grade because it would take 10 years to fit it all in.

I'm sorry, I'm done ranting. This just annoys the crap out of me.

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That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. 


"From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all," Gayle Hardison said. "If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown."


^This kind of attitude makes me sick.  I can't deal with people that think that America can do no wrong have their collective heads up their butts.  What should we teach our children about global warming? That the Apocalypse is coming soon, that's why it's getting warmer.  So go buy an SUV and don't bother recycling because the world is going to end soon anyway.  Don't listen to those crazies who say that people and industry are causing it. 


I'm going to go weep for humanity now. 



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squishy wrote:


"Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. "The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD"


it always amazes me that there's people out there that refuse to look beyond their own little bubble.

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"Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech," said Larson, a lawyer. "The beauty of our society is we allow debate."


How is banning something ever encouraging free speech?  Oh wait they didn't actually ban it...


"School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a "credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented," that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an "opposing view."


...they just made the film way too much of a hassle for even the most dedicated teacher to go to the effort of showing it.


 





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"From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all," Gayle Hardison said. "If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown."


That just about sums it up, doesn't it? ...from what my husband has expressed to me... Yes, dearie, be sure and only learn things that come from your darling husband's mouth. That's why people like you don't believe science is actually... wait, what? science.


Pathetic.



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I don't have kids but when I do I just hope they don't have to go to school with kids who have parents like that.  Don't they have PRIVATE schools for parents who want to shelter their children (I know kids go private for plenty of other reasons too).  Has anyone seen the movie "Jesus Camp" talk about a scary movie!

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blubirde wrote:

"From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all," Gayle Hardison said. "If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown."


That just about sums it up, doesn't it? ...from what my husband has expressed to me... Yes, dearie, be sure and only learn things that come from your darling husband's mouth. That's why people like you don't believe science is actually... wait, what? science.


Pathetic.






Hahahahahaaa! Good point.

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While I agree that the quote blubirdie pulled is disturbing I don't think that only one side of issues should be taught in school.  If you are going to discuss/debate something like evolution or global warming all sides should be presented. I don't think we should pull out the bible and teach verses but at least acknowledge that people believe other things, there are other options, etc.  There are some theories that suggest global warming isn't happening as fast as we think that this is just an el nino pattern or natural temperature change since climate is only based on the last 150ish years.  Why not mention it as well?  I honestly haven't been paying attention/reading much about this so I haven't picked a side to the debate yet.


Not everyone has private schools in their area and not everyone can afford them.  Just my thought.



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If you can't say "One Nation Under God" in the Pledge of Allegience due to separation of church and state then why should teachers have to teach what the Bible says as an "alternate theory" to scientific fact?  What are the schools going to teach if science is now under attack?


I am all for the pledge and saying it the way it was written, but I am also for teaching facts in our schools.  People are getting way out of hand with all of this crap they are imposing on schools.  If you don't like it send your kid to Catholic/Private school.  Oh wait...I went to Catholic school and we learned all about green house gases and global warming...I am sick of these religious nut jobs getting their way on both sides of the issue.  It is getting ridiculous.



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This is actually the origional pledge:


  I pledge allegiance to my Flag,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
     one Nation indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.


"Under God" was added almost 100 years later.


I have no problem with the way it is now but when people say it shouldn't say "under God" and everyone says "thats how it was writen you can't change it" thats really not true.



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