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avalon21 · BCBG

Dateline

Sibeski · Dooney & Bourke

I haven't heard about/seen it. I think I get the jist from your post. Is it child endangerment online?

AllieGurl · Marc Jacobs

Love this show. They have been doing the "to catch a predator" episodes for about a year. It is amazing how many sick people there are out there ...

Elle · Hermes

I just watched another special on this last week - among the people they caught was a doctor and quite a few military men. It's just beyond scary. IMO one of the conditions of these guys bail should be participation in a psych study - most of them just look so damn normal!

Our city has started doing this locally, too - inspired by the dateline version!

small fry · Chanel

I love this show and Iam glad they are catching these F*******!!!!!! The way they try to play it off when they are busted is just as sick

avalon21 · BCBG

It is child endangerment online because these sick people are meeting children on the internet. Did anyone see Desperate Housewives on Sunday night?? There is a pedophile living in the neighborhood! I think that it is great that these popular shows are raising awareness on the issue.

Hermes

I have seen this, and these guys are such slimeballs/idiots. they deserve the humiliation and legal punishment.

shopaholic · Dooney & Bourke

D wrote:

I have seen this, and these guys are such slimeballs/idiots. they deserve the humiliation and legal punishment.

thats exactly how i feel, my sister is 10 yrs old and everytime i see this on tv, it gets me so angry and scared that this kinda stuff might happen to her. my mom and i keep very close attention to her when shes using the internet!

lynnie · Chanel

this kind of stuff makes me really sad- for both sides. before i'm flamed- hear me out. apparantly- there are a lot of normal-seeming people that are really into this- just like any other weird fetish. Those are just all the ones that are caught-- the fact that there are sites like that out there means there is demand for it. But it is SO wrong and terrible that i'm sure a lot of people don't act on their desires (which is good) and are just silently ashamed. I"m not sure fetishes can be helped- I have no idea how they develop- so it makes me wonder how many people suffer from this but are way too embarassed to talk about it, because there is NO understanding in our society. You're automatically the biggest creep in the world for a feeling in yourself that you don't know how to change. So it just keeps continuing- people reaching out to other people that can also understand- because they are so alone-- and no one bothers to try to help them. Maybe its a mental disorder, maybe its caused by environment or incidents in youth- I have no idea. I remember seeing this indie film about this dad that was sexually aroused by his young son- and just hearing him break down in front of his son about how he wishes he could change that and not be like that really really disturbed me.

AllieGurl · Marc Jacobs

lynnie wrote:

this kind of stuff makes me really sad- for both sides. before i'm flamed- hear me out. apparantly- there are a lot of normal-seeming people that are really into this- just like any other weird fetish. Those are just all the ones that are caught-- the fact that there are sites like that out there means there is demand for it. But it is SO wrong and terrible that i'm sure a lot of people don't act on their desires (which is good) and are just silently ashamed. I"m not sure fetishes can be helped- I have no idea how they develop- so it makes me wonder how many people suffer from this but are way too embarassed to talk about it, because there is NO understanding in our society. You're automatically the biggest creep in the world for a feeling in yourself that you don't know how to change. So it just keeps continuing- people reaching out to other people that can also understand- because they are so alone-- and no one bothers to try to help them. Maybe its a mental disorder, maybe its caused by environment or incidents in youth- I have no idea. I remember seeing this indie film about this dad that was sexually aroused by his young son- and just hearing him break down in front of his son about how he wishes he could change that and not be like that really really disturbed me.

Heres the thing, there is a difference between a fetish/fantasy and actually acting on that and knowing that it endagers a child. These guys go on sites like myspace.com , pretend to be 15 - 18 yrs old (when they are like 40 ) and prey on innocent kids.

These guys on this show are not getting ostersized for there thoughts, they are getting ostersized for ACTING on these thoughts and trying to commit a crime with a minor.

Just my 2 cents ...

lynnie · Chanel

AllieGurl wrote:

lynnie wrote:

this kind of stuff makes me really sad- for both sides. before i'm flamed- hear me out. apparantly- there are a lot of normal-seeming people that are really into this- just like any other weird fetish. Those are just all the ones that are caught-- the fact that there are sites like that out there means there is demand for it. But it is SO wrong and terrible that i'm sure a lot of people don't act on their desires (which is good) and are just silently ashamed. I"m not sure fetishes can be helped- I have no idea how they develop- so it makes me wonder how many people suffer from this but are way too embarassed to talk about it, because there is NO understanding in our society. You're automatically the biggest creep in the world for a feeling in yourself that you don't know how to change. So it just keeps continuing- people reaching out to other people that can also understand- because they are so alone-- and no one bothers to try to help them. Maybe its a mental disorder, maybe its caused by environment or incidents in youth- I have no idea. I remember seeing this indie film about this dad that was sexually aroused by his young son- and just hearing him break down in front of his son about how he wishes he could change that and not be like that really really disturbed me.

Heres the thing, there is a difference between a fetish/fantasy and actually acting on that and knowing that it endagers a child. These guys go on sites like myspace.com , pretend to be 15 - 18 yrs old (when they are like 40 ) and prey on innocent kids.

These guys on this show are not getting ostersized for there thoughts, they are getting ostersized for ACTING on these thoughts and trying to commit a crime with a minor.

Just my 2 cents ...

i would never ever ever support acting on it- i hope that's not the impression you get from my post!

its more like...i feel bad that its a sickness that people have. The same way that i feel bad that some people are mentally ill and kill people. I think society needs to be protected from crimes, but I think support also needs to go into helping people that have this problem- because the fact is- for every person that acts on this thought, there are a bunch more that just FEEL this way. And that makes me sad that they have no one to talk to except each other because truth is, we just don't understand. I don't understand. No one wants ANYTHING to happen to their loved ones. Sexual deviance is such a taboo and isolating topic- if someone I loved told me they fantasized about something like that even though they'd never act on it - I would probably be really disturbed and never feel the same about that person again. That kind of gap in human understanding really bothers me. And once again- that makes me sad. I'm kind of the holden caulfield type though- most things can be spun around to make me sad.

AllieGurl · Marc Jacobs

lynnie wrote:

AllieGurl wrote:

lynnie wrote:

this kind of stuff makes me really sad- for both sides. before i'm flamed- hear me out. apparantly- there are a lot of normal-seeming people that are really into this- just like any other weird fetish. Those are just all the ones that are caught-- the fact that there are sites like that out there means there is demand for it. But it is SO wrong and terrible that i'm sure a lot of people don't act on their desires (which is good) and are just silently ashamed. I"m not sure fetishes can be helped- I have no idea how they develop- so it makes me wonder how many people suffer from this but are way too embarassed to talk about it, because there is NO understanding in our society. You're automatically the biggest creep in the world for a feeling in yourself that you don't know how to change. So it just keeps continuing- people reaching out to other people that can also understand- because they are so alone-- and no one bothers to try to help them. Maybe its a mental disorder, maybe its caused by environment or incidents in youth- I have no idea. I remember seeing this indie film about this dad that was sexually aroused by his young son- and just hearing him break down in front of his son about how he wishes he could change that and not be like that really really disturbed me.

Heres the thing, there is a difference between a fetish/fantasy and actually acting on that and knowing that it endagers a child. These guys go on sites like myspace.com , pretend to be 15 - 18 yrs old (when they are like 40 ) and prey on innocent kids.

These guys on this show are not getting ostersized for there thoughts, they are getting ostersized for ACTING on these thoughts and trying to commit a crime with a minor.

Just my 2 cents ...

i would never ever ever support acting on it- i hope that's not the impression you get from my post!

its more like...i feel bad that its a sickness that people have. The same way that i feel bad that some people are mentally ill and kill people. I think society needs to be protected from crimes, but I think support also needs to go into helping people that have this problem- because the fact is- for every person that acts on this thought, there are a bunch more that just FEEL this way. And that makes me sad that they have no one to talk to except each other because truth is, we just don't understand. I don't understand. No one wants ANYTHING to happen to their loved ones. Sexual deviance is such a taboo and isolating topic- if someone I loved told me they fantasized about something like that even though they'd never act on it - I would probably be really disturbed and never feel the same about that person again. That kind of gap in human understanding really bothers me. And once again- that makes me sad. I'm kind of the holden caulfield type though- most things can be spun around to make me sad.

Ahh, now I understand what you were trying to say.

There are support groups for this kind of behavior, however they are rarely discussed. Some of the problems are that some of these guys dont think they have a problem.

A couple of years ago my husband and I lived next door to a very publisicized case where a young girl was kidnapped from her bedroom at night, raped and left in the desert. Both the killer and the girl who died were our neighbors! My neices would stay with us often at the time around were the same age as this little girl who was killed. We moved within 2 months of this happening, but it still greatly upsets me when I think of how unsafe our kids are with these sickos walking around. I am more concerned with protecting the kids , then helping the bad guys. thats all.

avalon21 · BCBG

shopaholic wrote:

D wrote:

I have seen this, and these guys are such slimeballs/idiots. they deserve the humiliation and legal punishment.

thats exactly how i feel, my sister is 10 yrs old and everytime i see this on tv, it gets me so angry and scared that this kinda stuff might happen to her. my mom and i keep very close attention to her when shes using the internet!

That is really good that you are keeping a close eye on her. This is really scary stuff. There are tips on cybertipline that you can share with her. So she knows what is safe and not safe to post online.

avalon21 · BCBG

shopaholic: your sister might like this site :http://www.2smrt4u.com/. Hayden Panettiere is on it and I know a lot of kids like her. The site has tips for keeping teens safe online and stories from peers. It might help her know how she can keep herself safe when online!