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Hermes

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job postings that don't list a salary range?


I have a "real" job now but am looking to make a change in December (I have gotten all I can out of this job, including having them pay for my MA which is the main reason I took it in the first place) but I won't work for less than I make now. I don't make a ton and if I made any less I wouldn't be able to cover my bills comfortably. But like 90% of the job listings I see don't list anything for the salary range- is there any way to politely state my expectations in my cover letter (if they don't ask for it) or find out some other way? I don't want to waste a ton of time on interviews that lead to job offers that I can't take (and there are a lot of jobs around here that pay squat, so it is a very serious risk)



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I don't know the answer to this but I'm also curious what the answer is. How hard is it to put salary ranges in an ad? Geez...

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To answer your question, IMO, no, it is not ok to state your expectations in the cover letter unless the listing asks you to (and actually, many of them do, at least when I was searching.) I was on a job hunt 2 years ago and was so frustrated by the # of listings that don't give a salary. They do this because they don't want to be the first one to throw a number out there -- yet it's still considered bad etiquette to state your expectations until they ask you to.

2 of the jobs I interviewed for did not state a salary in the listing and did not ask for my expectations until the very end of the 1st interview. I know it sucks and this process can potentially be a huge time-waster, but HTH. :(

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Hmmm, IMO if the job is well suited to your education and experience, you should be able to expect a 'going-rate' of sorts.  Many times, if they want you bad enough after and interview or two, you should be able to ask for any reasonable amount and be pretty likely to get it.


For example, when FH and I moved to Spokane I knew I needed a job that paid $10 per hour to make ends meet.  So obviously, I skipped applying at places I new would start any worker out on minimum wage (McDonalds, mall stores, etc) and ended up a receptionist at an accounting firm making $10 per hour (had 2 years of experience already).  After that job ended, I interviewed for another receptionist position at an Electrical Contractor.  They interviewed me twice, had me do a half day working interview, and they hired me about halfway through.  We talked bacon at the second interview, where I said that I'd like to be in the $11-$12 range.  They offered me $11/hr, but gave me a raise to $12/hr a couple months later.


So anyway, moral of the story is that you kind of just have to know 'what you're worth' and go from there.  You deserve to be paid XYZ dollars because of your education and experience, and probably wouldn't want to work for a company that would offer you considerably less than that anyway.  Oh, and always ask for a little more than you actually want - at best (if they offer you the job), you'll get it and at worst you'll get what you actually wanted anyway.



-- Edited by LMonet at 18:37, 2005-11-29

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