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Chanel

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My husband is uncut and both our boys are cut. My husband was the one that wanted to cut the boys. He says it easier to keep clean and its not too sensitive. When the guys that are uncut have to peel back to clean I guess it can be sensitive becaue its always covered. And yes, if guys that are uncut dont take showers for days ( for whatever reason) it can get some build up in there. So if they are uncut, they have to be extra clean!

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cc - I'm sorry for getting in so late on this poll! I know you spoke to me about it before you posted this thread.

Do you want to know something weird? Well I always thought that my bf and I shared the same views on most things. We are pretty liberal people and I had always considered cut as a traditional thing.. not really as a necessity. I totally agree with cc's statement. Anyway, back to my bf, I asked him about this a while ago if he would have our baby cut (if we were to have a baby anyway).... and he said YES! I was a little startled! He replied because he felt like it was more normal. But I didn't think that my bf would give into something like that for the reason of conforming! I mean I feel like it's everyone's choice to do what they would like to their bodies, but for me personally, I just don't think it's something that I would do. I was surprised to hear that my bf would.

BTW, his sister's baby is uncut. But he's a Euro-baby.


I have been with both cut and uncut and like others have said never noticed a issue with hygeine.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH and another story. These two brothers that I was both romantically involved with in high school were both cut at a very late age. Their mother felt that it wasn't Christian for them to remain uncut.. so she had them cut..... AT THE AGES OF 11 AND 13!!!! I think the older one was going to high school the summer he was cut!!!!!! I mean this is where my opinion is going to come in.. but WTF was she thinking???? I would NEVER NEVER NEVER do that to my kids at that age.

Anyway, I didn't see that much discussion about what people thought about men becoming cut later in life. I guess it's personal choice. Does anyone else have any opinions!

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Well see, like I said before, my boys are cut. I see what you mean about not cutting and letting them decide for themselfs but when that time comes they are older and it will hurt them WAY MORE!
When they are babies its So much easier on them. My brother-in- law was not cut and then I believe he got an infection and had to get cut and it was so much more painful then. the recovery sucks, he could barely walk! And in the mornings he was in major pain, if you know what I mean! (the morning rise)

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My sister's boyfriend was not circumsized up until a year ago. He finally decided to do it. He said it was hard to keep clean and he was also afraid of what girls would think. My sister starting dating him right before he had it done. He said it was horrible pain. He said it is better just to have it done when they are babies. . It will hurt when you are a baby, but you don't remember that, but you do remember it when you are 16.



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Aww, man, I thought from the title this topic was going to be waaay dirtier.


Anyway, I have never seen an uncut man. But looking at those pics I don't think I want to. It just is so much more aesthetically pleasing IMO.


A friend of my bf said that he was uncut until his 20s. As a kid he didn't have the best personal hygiene and it would get yucky, crusty and hurt. Then getting cut as an adult, he said, hurt like a mofo.



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"Well see, like I said before, my boys are cut. I see what you mean about not cutting and letting them decide for themselfs but when that time comes they are older and it will hurt them WAY MORE! When they are babies its So much easier on them.

 


"When the time comes"? Uncut babies do not grow up and get cut on their 18th birthdays! I think the opposing point was not that it wouldn't hurt if a man decided to do it when he was older, but uncut they *do* have the choice - if you cut and he decides at 20 that he wished it hadn't happened, there's no going back. Uncut guys, if they feel that strongly, can get the cut done - at least there is a choice. Also, if you look at stats on this issue, the number of uncut men who get cut as adults is pretty insignificant (personal gross out stories aside).


As for it being easier on babies, there have been a couple of studies indicating that newborns *do* feel pain (I am curious as to why anyone would think they didn't, actually), and that they respond to it through lots of deep sleep after the initial shock, followed by higher anxiety and "startling" reactions as infants - I don't recall if they followed the boys past infancy. Just because a newborn can't grab your hand and say "hey that hurts like hell" doesn't mean it's painless!


My whole stance on this issue is based on the above - no one can really *know* how painful it is for a newborn, but a)I personally choose not to take even the chance that a newborn would experience pain - I mean, just no way in hell am I doing that unless it is a life-threatening or very serious situation and b)as previously mentioned, I may gave birth to a son at some point, but I don't believe I own his body, nor do I believe I have the right to make decisions about it. If he were to decide he wanted to be cut as an adult, I would be fine with that.



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whoa i had no idea when i posted that other people would know of late cutters!!!!! how weird!

mia i totally agree with you. even newborns are sentient beings and that is another reason why personally i oppose cut. but i can understand that tradition for some can outweigh this. not my personal choice, but i can understand... but for those who just think of it as a cleanliness issue, i think it's a topic to revisit.

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Mia- i didn't mean to say that in the future (18th b-day) they would have to get cut. Just saying if they choose to it seems more painful. (I have witnessed babies and older men around me at those times) and of course babies feel the pain but its a lost memory and its over quicker then when your older.

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I don't really see how not remembering the pain makes it any better. If a grown man could get cut and then have the memory of the circumcision erased Eternal Sunshine-style, would that change anyone's mind about adult circumcision? The pain is the issue, not the memory. I can remember tons of times when something really physically painful happened to me, but it's not as if ever time those memories flash into my brain I actually feel the pain again.

I think the only logical reason for saying that it's better to be circumcised as a baby instead of as an adult is because it's painful to walk after the procedure and newborns aren't ambulatory so that cuts down on their discomfort a bit. But I think a brief period of pain isn't a big price to pay for ability to choose.

dot, I knew a guy in h.s. who got cut at 16 but I can't remember why. I don't think he had any problems, I think it was voluntary.

brazen canadian yeah it's not a very dirty conversation but i just wanted to warn people in advance in case they were squeamish.

-- Edited by cc at 12:29, 2005-01-11

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