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Dooney & Bourke

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I'll add to all the best friend drama...

This past friday I was suppossed to go out with a group of friends. We went to dinner, and then we were going to go to this guys house (I'm not very good friends with him, but my BFF is). When I told my BF I was going to his house, he said he didnt feel comfortable with that because he doesnt know who he is. Now I totally understand this. I wouldn't feel comfortable with him going over to some girls house I didnt know. Anyway, so after dinner I told my friends that I was going to go home. Maybe I shouldn't have even said the reason, but I wanted to be honest.

Well today I find out that my BFF sent my BF this long email saying that he isnt treating me right and he should be the man that I need...etc. He replies saying she has no right to be giving him advice on our relationship since shes not very good at keeping hers together. Both emails were uncalled for.

I just dont understand why she didnt even talk to me first. If she did, she would have known how I feel. I am so happy in my relationship. Yes, we do have our problems, but we always work them out. I really feel like she does not support me whatsoever in my relationship. I mean isnt that what friends do? Even if she doesnt really like him? It's just so weird because her BF, ex-BF have done far worse things to her and I still stuck by her when she decided to still be with them.

My BF and I plan on getting married. I guess I just feel that if she cant even support me now, why would she in the future. I'm sure she feels like I'm chosing him over her, and honestly, maybe I am. But he is one of the most important person in my life. Is it wrong for me to feel that way?

I think shes already decided we cant be friends. She sent me a message earlier. I didnt respond right away since I'm at work, and I really didnt know what to say. About 5 minutes later she says, "ok so I guess you cant talk to me because of your bf." Oh, and I'm officially deleted off her myspace...yes, because thats so crucial.

I know this was long. I needed to vent. I could also use some advise, or been there, done that stories. Thanks girls.

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Kate Spade

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All I can really say is your bff is way out of line and is acting very childish. Regardless of how she views your relationship, she has no business doing what she did.  

When I was in my early college days, I was in the backseat of my friend's boyfriend's car and they were having a ridiculous fight. It was really uncomfortable and he kept twisting her words around. I piped up "that's not what she meant" which then directed his fury on me. After he dropped us off, I apologized for interfering. She was cool with it, but from then on out, he treated me like I was some meddling busybody coming in between the two of them. That was the moment I learned not to involve myself in other people's relationships.

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Marc Jacobs

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your friend is being very childish. writing to your BF without speaking with you, and then deleting you from MySpace and sending you that message after not hearing from you in 5 minutes -- all very immature. since she is your BFF and not some random girl, though, do you want to try and salvage the relationship? you have every right to tell her why this is inappropriate and not cool, talk about what happened, and see if she can accept that and you can move on from there.

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Dooney & Bourke

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After last night I'm not even sure how I feel about her. After getting the email my BF sent her, she responded with this...

"oh and the other reason i had a problem with her being with you was bc it didnt even seem like she was in love with you...it seemed like she just wanted to get married or be in a serious relationship with whoever. and i just didnt want her making a mistake...but i guess i was wrong...so dont worry about me being a bad influence anymore bc her and i arent friends any longer."
 
I just cant believe she said that. I dont know where she would ever get that idea. The only reason I could think of is that I rarely talk about my BF to her, because I know she doesnt like him, so I feel uncomfortable if I were to bring it up. And if she was so concerned about this, again, why did she not say this to me??? Ughhh...  The only thing I want to say to her is how uncalled for those emails were. Especially that last one.


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Marc Jacobs

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sounds like she is jealous and overprotective...... I think you should wait a while then have a heart to heart and review whats really bothering her.

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Chanel

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while I don't suport her actions in any way shape or form, you say she is your BFF. How long have you two been friends? I think a good friendship is worth saving, even if you start to detach yourself slightly. 
She sounds really jealous and scared she'll lose you.  Is there any way you could just tell her that you're upset at what she did , but you love her and would like to work things out?  Maybe giving yourself some time to cool off?  To me, a solid friendship is like marriage in a way, and sometimes you hit rough patches where there are misunderstandings, miscommunications, childishness, etc.  If you've had doubts about her all along, maybe its time to re-evalute, but if this is an isolated event, than i'd try to work things out. 
Its tricky territory when a bf/bff don't get along.  I always wonder if its usually territorial, or because we want our bff to end up with the absolute *best* (in our own eyes- not theirs- which is kind of effed up.) 

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I feel weird giving advice on this topic, given my recent post, but I agree with xtinastyles. It sounds like she is jealous and possessive. If she's really your BFF, I'd give her a chance to tell you what's on her mind. She'll probably say some ridiculous things, but maybe she needs to hear you reassure her that you won't choose one over the other, that there's room for both a bf and a bff in your life.

I'd also make it clear that there are boundaries with your bf. She can discuss issues she has with him to you but never to him. She's not his friend, she's yours.

I hope it works out for you, one way or the other.

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Dooney & Bourke

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I just really dont know what to do. The thing that bugs me is that this isnt the first time shes done this. Shes emailed him before saying he isnt a good enough BF.

I dont know. I dont want to give up on our freindship. Weve been friends for over 10 years. We have had times though when we didnt speak to each other. I think she has a problem with actually working things out, and I eventually just give up and forget whatever happened. On the other hand though, I feel like if we try to work it out, or we come to an agreement to not talk about him, that isnt something I want. I feel like even if she saw how great my BF is, she will always not like him. And I dont want to censor myself around her, to make her happy.

I'm so torn. Thanks for all the advice girls. I still dont know what to do, but it helps being able to talk about it.

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Marc Jacobs

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Maybe you could tell her an edited version of what you just said -- you don't want to lose your friendship of ten years, but it really upsets you that she has this unfounded dislike of your boyfriend and that you need her to get past it and accept that you love him and are the one who gets to decide who you're with. And also that she needs to stop writing to him behind your back and complaining about him. See where it goes from there.

I agree, she sounds jealous and possessive. And she's also being overly dramatic.

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Hey - I'm rarely on here anymore, but I decided to lurk, and I have to say something.

1) Your BFF isn't your most important problem here. Yes, she's being very immature. (Myspace, really?) But I read her actions as the snapping point. It sounds as if frustration has been building for her for some time. Has she ever done something like this before? Does she generally have your back? Because everything she's done has had two motives. First, to protect you from someone who she thinks isn't treating you right (more on that later) And second, to emphasize to you that she is your friend, and that she should receive more consideration.

2) Your boyfriend is in the early stages of a controlling relationship. Go ahead. Disagree. Hate me. I'm right. Here's how I can tell: First, he is upset and concerned about where you go, and feels like he has the right to put limits on it. I don't think he was reasonable to limit you visiting a stranger's house, when you're with a group (one on one, ok, but a group?) Further, from what your friend said, this is a pattern for him - to limit your time with your friends based on plausible-sounding reasons. That's REALLY not good. Even worse, he defends it not with, "This is just something I want to ask," like a normal person, but with, 'This is just what's reasonable," like a controller.

Second, his response to your friend was to absolutely discard anything she could say and insult her. He didn't even consider the possibility that he could be doing something wrong. That is a her, a HUGE red flag. Normal people say, "Wow, I didn't know I came off like that." Controlling people say, "You're wrong! And you have BLAH flaws too..." Then they just start making accusations. Which is exactly what he did. He didn't stop to consider for one second that this is your best friend, and he should tread a bit lightly, even if she's out of line. Actually, that he should let YOU respond BECAUSE she's out of line. He attacked. RED FLAG.

3) I get the impression your boyfriend would love it if this friendship died. If someone I cared about was losing a friend, I would feel terrible for her. I woudl encourage her to talk it out. Maybe understand the other side. Or, let it go for a little while to let things calm down. I wouldn't be reminding you that your BFF should support you in whatever you do (she should. But it is REALLY hard to watch a friend being mistreated. I've been on both sides of this one.)

4) When in doubt, I think you should always give the girl the venefit of the doubt over the guy, if someone is making you pick. It's just a good rule. She did say some rotten things, though. So maybe you don't want either one.

5) Because you don't have to satisfy either of the two drama queens in your life right now. You can set standards for how you want your BFF to treat you, and let her decide whether or not she will meet them. And you can set standards for your BF. I would start that pronto, because I don't think he's going to like it. If he balks, or tries to tell you he doesn't need standards, or really comes up with any argument at all, please get out. Because the proper response when a friend or girlfriend asks for something important to her is, "I understand. If it's important to you, of course I will." He just doesn't sound like that's goign to be his first response. I think his first response is goign to be to tell you there's something wrong with you. And no one should have to put up with that in a sensitive, close relationship.

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I have to say, I pretty much agree with Dizzy.

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Marc Jacobs

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This is a tough one, becuause honestly we only know where you are coming from.

Now while I agree that your BFF is being VERY imature in dealing with this, your Boy doesnt seem to be responding much better than her.

I feel like Dizzy really brought out alot of good points about this situation.


On a side note* While I was reading this I sorta felt like the BFF in how I reacted to a good friend of mine with her Fiance. (not as extreme as her, however we are no longer good friends). My Good friend was/is involved with a man who has destroyed her life. He has treated her poorly, taken advantage of her, controlled her and I really couldnt let it go on without saying something about it. It got to the point where yes she picked him over me. She is still involved and there relationship has only gotten worse, however I felt as her friend I needed to be honest with her. I couldnt continue to remain good friends with her after she continued to allow herself to be in a crappy sitation with someone who continulley treated her badly.
Now I am not saying this is you, however , again, we only know your side of the story. Perhaps there is some truth to what she says, only she is handling it very badly.

My only advice to you is this:

You are an adult and you will live with your choices in life. Make your own decisions about who/what is important to you without being influenced by how others expect you to live your life. (this includes your BFF AND BOYFRIEND). At the end of the day, you create your own happiness.

Best of luck ...

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