I soooo wish trans fats AND smoking were banned where I live... NYC Bans Trans Fats From Eateries By DAVID B. CARUSO, AP National Writer document.write(getElapsed("20061206T113107Z"));
NEW YORK - In a nation now accustomed to bans on smoking in public places, New York has planted a flag on what could be the next front in community health wars.
It is becoming the first city in the country to ban all restaurants from using artificial trans fats, while requiring hundreds of eateries to post food calorie counts right on their menus.
City health officials created the unprecedented new requirements Tuesday. Restaurants will get a grace period to make both changes, but by mid-2008, Dunkin' Donuts will have to find a substitute for the 3.5 grams of trans fat in its Boston Kremes and tell customers up front that the snacks contain 240 calories.
But the city's gigantic food-service industry has opposed parts of both new rules, and some restaurant companies have hinted that they might challenge them in court.
The ban won't apply to grocery stores or restaurants that serve prepared foods in the manufacturer's original packaging.
The city's health commissioner, Thomas Frieden, said the changes will help fight the twin epidemics of obesity and heart disease. Trans fats, listed on food labels as partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, are believed to be harmful because they wreak havoc with cholesterol levels.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who banned smoking in bars and restaurants during his first term, said the changes could save lives.
"We're not trying to take away anybody's ability to go out and have the kind of food that they want in the quantities that they want, but we are trying to make that food safer," he said.
Many New Yorkers also were all for the ban, saying health concerns were more important than fears of Big Brother supervising their stomachs.
"I don't care about what might be politically correct and what's not," said Murray Bader, nursing a cup of coffee at Dunkin' Donuts on Tuesday morning. "I want to live longer!"
However, some restaurant cooks have worried about tinkering with tried-and-true recipes. Concerns have been raised about whether there is enough trans-fat-free cooking oil on the market to supply the city's thousands of friers.
Big fast-food companies had complained about the calorie provision, too, saying it would clutter menu boards with health data already available on fliers, charts and Web pages.
"This isn't over," said Dan Fleshler, a spokesman for the National Restaurant Association, which represents the industry. "We don't think that a municipal health agency has any business banning a product the (U.S.) Food and Drug Administration has already approved."
The city Board of Health, which passed the ban unanimously, did give restaurants a few breaks.
The calorie disclosure rule will apply only to restaurants that serve standardized portion sizes and make nutritional information available voluntarily. About 1 in 10 of the city's restaurants are expected to be affected. Companies that don't wish to comply can simply stop providing any nutritional data.
The board also relaxed a tight deadline for compliance on the trans-fat ban.
With some exceptions, restaurants will be barred from using spreads and frying oils containing artificial trans fats by July 1. Foods covered in that first round include french fries and fried chicken.
All other foods, including doughnuts, cookies and pies that use partially hydrogenated vegetable oil for texture, will have to be trans-fat-free by July 2008.
Originally, the city had envisioned giving restaurants less time, but Frieden acknowledged that finding substitute ingredients for baked goods will take experimentation.
"There are real challenges for certain products," he said.
Some food makers stopped using trans fats voluntarily after the FDA began requiring trans-fat content on food labels.
Wendy's International Inc. introduced a zero-trans fat oil in August. Yum Brands Inc.'s KFC and Taco Bell said they also will cut the trans fats from many foods in their kitchens.
McDonald's has experimented with more than a dozen healthier oil blends for its french fries and has vowed to be ready for New York's ban.
Cooks originally began using partially hydrogenated vegetable oil as a substitute for animal fats because it is cheaper and has a longer shelf life. The FDA estimates the average American eats 4.7 pounds of the stuff each year.
New York's ban follows a national requirement, beginning this past January, that companies list artificial trans-fat content on food labels. Efforts are also being made to reduce the trans-fat content of snacks in school vending machines.
Kathy Ramirez, a 26-year-old New York mother who takes her toddler to McDonald's every week, approves of New York's new restaurant rules.
"It's hurting us, all this fat, but the kids really like it," said Ramirez, pointing to 3-year-old Amber, who had just finished her dinner. "It would be better to know what we're getting."
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Can I just be the one to say that on a night out to a nice dinner, the last thing that I want it guilt over the exact number of calories I'm consuming. I say make it available online so people that want to plan ahead can, but when I'm trying to decide what I want to eat I don't want the calories staring at me! Guess that's why I'm not the skinny girl though.......
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laken1 wrote: Can I just be the one to say that on a night out to a nice dinner, the last thing that I want it guilt over the exact number of calories I'm consuming. I say make it available online so people that want to plan ahead can, but when I'm trying to decide what I want to eat I don't want the calories staring at me! Guess that's why I'm not the skinny girl though.......
I'm with you there. I can figure out or choose to be ignorant in regard to my calorie intake. I may be curious how many calories is in something, but I don't need calories on my menu. Next thing that'll happen is the people at your table start questioning your choices, "wow, I can't believe you're ordering that -- it's 650 calories!" me in response, "I know, but I have only had a banana today" having to defend my choice...
Trans fat is poison - so I'm totally in support of banning it. As far as people being a healthy weight, I think it is important. Not only in reducing health care costs, but reducing pharmaceutical costs through decreasing need (isn't that why meds are cheaper in all other countries in the US? because the need isn't there like it is here? correct me if I'm wrong) as well as increasing longevity and quality of life. I do believe in minimal government though - let me make my own choices. I guess getting information to allow me to make better choices isn't all that bad either...
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At first I was not in favor of this, but then again I wasn't in favor of the smoking ban and I don't even smoke. I disliked the idea of the government getting involved in personal decisions. But now, I love having a smoking ban, and I also like the trans-fat ban. Obesity is the new big healthcare issue in America and we need to get healthier, so this is a great way to start doing that. The calories on the menu thing does sound awkward, though.
"wow, I can't believe you're ordering that -- it's 650 calories!" me in response, "I know, but I have only had a banana today" having to defend my choice..."
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hilarious
Now is someone would just ban chitllins and pork rinds we'll be in a much better place
I'm just indifferent with the ban. Its nice they are taking it out of food but it won't make a difference. If people want to be unhealthy they will.
Ruby Tuesday's a few years back put their nutritional info right on the menu and had such a negative response they took it right off the menu. I tend to stick with just the salad bar there and I was just sickened by how bad their food was. I'm with Laken I want the option of knowing but I don't always want to know. Sorta how McDonald's has the brochure next to the register but I don't have to look at it if I don't want to.
laken1 wrote: Can I just be the one to say that on a night out to a nice dinner, the last thing that I want it guilt over the exact number of calories I'm consuming. I say make it available online so people that want to plan ahead can, but when I'm trying to decide what I want to eat I don't want the calories staring at me! Guess that's why I'm not the skinny girl though.......
That's how I feel, too. Sometimes I want to go out and eat something I know is completely bad for me without having a shame attack in the middle of dinner. I think that if the law stipulated that restaurants are required provide a menu listing the calories, fat, etc. in each dish if asked by a patron I'd be really happy. That would allow consumers to be aware of nutritional facts if they need/want to, but not make others uncomfortable about eating in certain establishments or foods.
Gosh, if guys are already complaining about those "salad only" girls on dates, it'll be hilarious if this law passes.
-- Edited by Liz at 17:01, 2006-12-07
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It's about time the government stepped in. This is going to help people who are eating out on a daily basis and making bad choices. Suicide is illegal, so eating your way to a heart attack is nearly the same. Now, putting calorie intake on the menus is going a little far. They should have have these menus only if a customer requests one.
I am 100% opposed to the menu thing. Remember when Ruby Tuesday's had it right on their menues and the portions got tiny? I couldn't eat there anymore. I'd go out to try and treat myself and I'd feel forced to get the healthiest thing on the menu and then stress over how bad it still was.
The trans fat thing is good I guess...as long as they come up with a way to make everything taste as good as it does with it. I think a better idea might have been to just label the trans fat food with the amount, so that people who wanted to stay away from them could. If it's that bad for you, ban it all together in all forms...don't only ban it from restaurants in one place.If its legal, I want the option to eat it.