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Hermes

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*** my comment ***


I didn't want to post this in the entertainment thread, since it's got a news peg. I have to say I saw the movie this weekend, and I don't feel an ounce of pity for the people who made asses of themselves, especially the frat boys, the guy at the rodeo, etc. But I do feel badly for the people (like the TV producer) who didn't make themselves look like jerks, but suffered all the same for being in the movie.


That said, they all signed releases. I wonder what the legal language was in those releases that's so ironclad.






 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_en_mo/film_borat_s_victims


By ERIN CARLSON, Associated Press Writer 49 minutes ago



While teaching American humor to a gregarious and absurdly out-of-touch foreign journalist, Pat Haggerty realized something was off — who WAS this guy?


Haggerty, a public speaking coach from Washington, is one of the unwitting co-stars of the surprise hit movie "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit of Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan." Haggerty has no hard feelings toward Borat, aka comedian Sacha Baron Cohen — but the same can't be said for others who were humiliated, thanks to the awkward fellow with the bushy mustache.


Their embarrassment over the film's hilarious, cringe-inducing blend of fiction and improvised comedy is magnified by its success — "Borat" has topped the box office two weeks in a row, earning a total of $67.8 million.


Last year, Haggerty agreed to be filmed for what he thought was a benign documentary on his client's journey across America. He hurriedly signed a release form, was paid $400, and the lesson began.


As cameras rolled, his client told raunchy stories in garbled English and laughed heartily at the expense of handicapped people. "And then, I'm starting to smell a rat," Haggerty told The Associated Press. "Each passing minute I'm going, `You know, this can't be real.'"


Confused, he ended up playing along. He later figured out — thanks to his son, an HBO-watching college student — that he'd been duped.


Duped by Borat.


"They were exercising a First Amendment right," said Haggerty, adding that he enjoyed the movie. "And this Sacha Cohen guy's going to make 87 gazillion dollars. You know, good for him. I'm just sorry that he had to do it in such a way that he allowed people to make jerks out of themselves exposing their character flaws."


Two of Cohen's targets — fraternity boys who made drunken, insulting comments about women and minorities — are suing 20th Century Fox and three production companies. The lawsuit claims that a production crew took the students to a bar to "loosen up" before participating in what they were told would be a documentary to be shown outside of the United States, and that they signed waivers after drinking heavily. Studio spokesman Gregg Brilliant said the lawsuit "has no merit."


Cohen's behavior also wasn't funny to former TV producer Dharma Arthur, who claims she was duped into giving Cohen airtime on a morning show segment in Jackson, Miss. Cohen's live appearance, in which he said he had to go "urine" and hugged a bemused weatherman, led her life into a downward spiral, she told the AP. She is seeking an apology.


Although Arthur has said she was fired from the show, she told the AP that she left the station.


Kathie Martin, who runs an etiquette school in Birmingham, Ala., was also left out of the joke. Even though she was gracious and calm when Borat showed her nude photos of his son, Martin admitted she was "taken aback" by his schtick during their on-camera meeting.


"Unless you can figure it out for yourself, you have no way of knowing you have been tricked into being part of a childish prank with an R rating attached," she told the AP in an e-mail.


"And even if you figure it out, you've signed a release that Mr. Cohen's people say relinquishes any rights on your part to take action against them."


Ronald Miller, of Natchez, Miss., was baffled by the ruse. He and his wife attended a dinner at a plantation house, which they were told would be an interview with an "Eastern European television reporter coming to Natchez to film social customs in the South," he told the AP.


Borat disturbed guests, Miller said, by making anti-Semitic remarks and saying slavery was wonderful. He also invited a dinner guest — a woman posing as a prostitute — to join the group.


In another scene in the film, former "Baywatch" babe Pamela Anderson was attacked by Borat's alter ego at a book signing, and he later chased her through a parking lot.


Did she learn of his antics in advance? Yep, claims Anderson.

"I love Borat ... Of course (Sacha) and I planned this years ago," she wrote in a recent post on her Web site. "And it turned out perfect — I'm so happy for him."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Hanrahan contributed to this report.



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I don't know... I never sign anything unless I have a full understanding of the impact through asking a lot of questions. This may suck for the people who did embarrassing things, but people should always be careful of what they say or do when being filmed or recorded - especially if they signed a release...


unless they can demonstrate they were purposely mislead or under duress (i.e. drinking), this will definitely a lesson learned for them. 



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i didn't see the film, but here's an article/letter from linda stein who says she was duped by him. here is an excerpt:

...although I admit that I failed to read the fine detail on the “Standard Consent Agreement.” Since I thought this was a documentary, I probably would have signed it anyway. When I did study it later, I realized that it’s anything but “standard.” Buried are statements asserting that I waive claims for “offensive behavior” and “misleading portrayal” and “fraud (such as any alleged deception or surprise about the film or this consent agreement).”

here is the full text: http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_179/howiwasduped.html

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erin wrote:


i didn't see the film, but here's an article/letter from linda stein who says she was duped by him. here is an excerpt:

...although I admit that I failed to read the fine detail on the “Standard Consent Agreement.” Since I thought this was a documentary, I probably would have signed it anyway. When I did study it later, I realized that it’s anything but “standard.” Buried are statements asserting that I waive claims for “offensive behavior” and “misleading portrayal” and “fraud (such as any alleged deception or surprise about the film or this consent agreement).”

here is the full text: http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_179/howiwasduped.html



wow - it appears that that woman was seriously misled, and hurredly rushed into signing it. I wonder if anyone said they would read it over and sign it later or wanted to take it to their lawyer before signing it and never heard from the Borat team again...

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I haven't seen the movie, but I love the whole Ali G show, so I'm familiar with the style of the movie.

I'd like to say that I'd read the whole thing before I signed it, but I've been in and out of the hospital a few times lately and I have signed countless things, only relying on the person who was presenting them to me to explain what I was signing. For all I know, I signed my soul away!

Still, I think I would've read through something from an obscure documentary company, someone I didn't necessarily trust, before I signed it. And I would definitely not get drunk before the filming. I would also not make awful comments about women or minorities, and honestly if some of the crude frat boys I know were duped on something like this, I'd feel that they were getting what was coming to them. I can't believe what comes out of some people's mouths, and they can't get mad at someone else for what they said.

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Yeah, I never understand when people say things clearly stated are "buried" - I assume the things she put in quotes came directly from the documents? Do they want you to bold / highlight the interest parts? Welcome to legal documents people. Either you read them or you don't.

-- Edited by laken1 at 01:35, 2006-11-14

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While I understand some people were made to look very foolish in the movie, I find it hard to feel sympathy for people who sign things without reading them carefully.  Anything with the word "waiver" or "release" on it should be taken seriously and if people just signed them quickly because they wanted to be in a movie weren't acting responsibly. 



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this is near the top of the long list of the most pathetic self-serving lawsuits I've ever heard about:


Two of Cohen's targets — fraternity boys who made drunken, insulting comments about women and minorities — are suing 20th Century Fox and three production companies. The lawsuit claims that a production crew took the students to a bar to "loosen up" before participating in what they were told would be a documentary to be shown outside of the United States, and that they signed waivers after drinking heavily.


It's probably insane of me to think two worthless moronic frat boys would ever perceive this, but being drunk has never, and will never, absolve anyone from their actions. Honest to god, the spectacle of two idiots trying to blame someone else for them getting wasted and spewing a bunch of bigoted garbage, and then being embarrassed when that garbage is aired publicly, just makes me want to puke.



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sephorablue wrote:



this is near the top of the long list of the most pathetic self-serving lawsuits I've ever heard about:


Two of Cohen's targets — fraternity boys who made drunken, insulting comments about women and minorities — are suing 20th Century Fox and three production companies. The lawsuit claims that a production crew took the students to a bar to "loosen up" before participating in what they were told would be a documentary to be shown outside of the United States, and that they signed waivers after drinking heavily.


It's probably insane of me to think two worthless moronic frat boys would ever perceive this, but being drunk has never, and will never, absolve anyone from their actions. Honest to god, the spectacle of two idiots trying to blame someone else for them getting wasted and spewing a bunch of bigoted garbage, and then being embarrassed when that garbage is aired publicly, just makes me want to puke.





did you see the movie? They said something to the effect of "too bad slavery is illegal" and "women are just good for sex."


I think the most interesting (and scary) fact about Borat is the way Americans behaved when they thought no one would notice. Kazakhstan shouldn't be embarrassed by his portayal -- we should.



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