But help! I was taking to my bf about CarrieS' Gucci bag, and he went on a nutso fashion hating rant! I knew he didn't like fashion, but I didn't know he hated it THIS much!!! He thinks we are naive, gullible, and obsessed with price/others opinions. So he hates one of my biggest pastimes...ACK! What's a girl to do? How do I make him shut up/change his mind!
So, my frugal fashion hating bf just bought....a ....1400$ video card for his new computer!!! So far he has spent 3,676.05 dollars on this computer, and he has no case and no monitor. Somehow I feel a lot less guilty about that 400$ bag.
-- Edited by kisa at 13:27, 2006-01-05
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"...If I know my supermodels (and according to the half-dozen or so draped across my bed in a jenga of crack-glazed longing, I certainly do)"
I tell this to my hubby when he gets this disgusted look on his face" you are so lucky you are not a women I would not even think @ wearing the same shoe with all my outfits and at least I look good" I only say this when Iam really frustrated , because I know iam not all that hehe
I think it's an appreciation for things that are aesthetically pleasing... also, if I feel good about how I look, it definitely reflects in my attitude - it's important for me to feel good about myself - if I look good, I feel good.
those girls that don't care about this kind of stuff he would probably not be attracted to... was his initial attraction to you your personality? most likely not. he probably saw an attractive woman and wanted to get to know you - personality comes later. you are attractive because you care about how you look.
also, about designer brands and expense - you get what you pay for... you can buy things that are inexpensive and of poor design, and they don't have the same durability in construction or style. Carrie's bag is a bag she can use for many many years.
-- Edited by detroit at 22:11, 2005-12-16
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"Fashion can be bought. Style one must possess." ~ Edna Woolman Chase
Whenever I get the sense that my husband doesn't understand the fashion thing (and the expense associated with it), I try and compare it to something he understands. My husband has a great appreciation for nice cookware and kitchen knives, as well as stereo equipment, so I just try to compare a really nice Coach purse to a really nice Le Creuset saucepan. They both cost a bit more, but the quality is much better, and if you take care of it, you can pass it down to your kids. You can buy a lesser quality purse or saucepan, but you'll end up buying more of them in the long run and therefore you'll just end up spending more.
It's all a matter of putting it into terms he can understand.
was his initial attraction to you your personality? most likely not. he probably saw an attractive woman and wanted to get to know you - personality comes later. you are attractive because you care about how you look.
Actually I met him on the internet! So I guess he *kind* of was. But maybe I should try wearing my pajamas EVERYWHERE next time I go see him. Company party - pajamas. Date night - oh, look, it's the triumphant return of....pajamas!! etc etc
I tried to play the quality card with him, but he just started hammering me with reports of Gucci sweatshops, and how Gucci was going under until some guy came up with this naked young people marketing scheme to give Gucci an image of eternal youth. I never associated Gucci with eternal youth, actually I always thought it was a bit of an older man's brand!
So then I tried to associate fashion with something he really likes, computer games. But since the quality argument had already fallen through, I had to work the sweatshops angle. Well the only computer game sweatshops I could find were paying Chinese people to develop characters (really repetitive gold farming) so the gold points could be listed on ebay for lazy gamers. He is strongly against that. Blaaaaah, what an annoying guy!!
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"...If I know my supermodels (and according to the half-dozen or so draped across my bed in a jenga of crack-glazed longing, I certainly do)"
hmm- here is my $.02. I've explained in a ncshopper-esque way about quality, and while he sorta gets it, its really not worth it. because in a way- while cost per wear can be worth it as detroit said, it really just comes down to me liking an item, and thats why i spend. if i had less money, i'd make do with a cheaper bag that would also last a while and also be classic, and cost per wear would be even less. if you have the money to spend, you are more likely to do so. so its kinda that way- you like it cause you like it, and to you, its worth it. I don't really like talking about it to bf because he can buy a $5 vintage shirt and wear it for years upon years, until its threadbare. so....i don't know.
as far as hating fashion- i'd just accept that about him. i kinda hate fashion too. a lot of designers hate fashion. you can still appreciate beautifully made things, or your favorite item, or the aesthetic of it, or designing things, or get excited for all the shows, and still hate how fashion works. also, consumer culture in a way bothers a lot of people, regardless of how guilty we all are. the idea of having too many "things" in this world is starting to bother me too =/ i've imposed a shopping ban on myself for a while, til i sort though my closet and edit it to things i wear all the time. so, sorry to have a bummer opinion, i dont mean it as such, i would just try to play it off as something that interests you, and not really discuss prices or designers that he despises. everyone has certain companies that they don't care for just based on how they are run.