they're the best kind. i kind of need to vent and also need unbiased opinions. so i met this boy, we'll call him g a while ago like end of january/beginning of february, and we hit it off really well (a little too well but we won't get into that). anyway we talked on the phone a little bit but it kind of fizzled, but i do think it was my fault b/c i got this voicemail from him but my stupid phone i couldn't tell if it was old or new and i just deleted it b/c i thought it was old and never returned the call, and then he never called me back. also i met someone else during the interim.
so on wednesday i get this call and there's no name showing up on my caller id so i don't answer and the person doesn't leave a message. the next day the person calls again so i pick up the phone and it's g, which is so random b/c it's been like 3 months. anyway the first thing he says is i found a job, which is also kind of random, but not totally b/c when i met him he was unemployed. so we talk a bit but not too much b/c i'm at work and he asks if i want to do something for cinco de mayo, but the weird thing is he prefaces his request with "i apologize if this is rude." i already have plans but i say maybe we can do something over the weekend. totally not expecting him to call.
anway long story short he called me again today, and i haven't returned the call yet. it's almost 10 pm and i'm dead tired, so i know i'm not going anywhere tonight except to my bed. and the main reason i haven't returned the call is b/c i don't want to neg him twice and make him think i'm not interested. but at the same time i don't really know why i care b/c he did take 3 months to call. but i also know that when i met him he was in transition (he'd just moved back to the city from minnesota or somewhere like that and was looking for a job) so i kind of understand but i don't.
arrgg, now i'm babbling. i called him while i was writing this and we have vague plans to meet up tomorrow. i really hate boys sometimes, but you can't live without them, and i'm going to stop babbling now...
haha, so do you even like this guy??? i mean what happened sounds like typical weirdness... who knows how many times he actually called you without leaving a message. he must be seriously interested.... you basically never called him back but he kept trying. so what do you think about him?
Yeah I def. think this guy is interested, and technically you were the one who didn't return a key call, no? If you *are* interested I say follow it up!
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Okay magic date ball, does G like Honey? And the answer is (drumroll while I'm shaking the ball) "decidely so." Woo-hoo! Decidely so! I just knew it.
He definitely likes you. Why else would he keep calling? I certainly wouldn't have. (And if I had to guess I'd say you wouldn't have either.) Do you like him? He sounds nice enough, at least nice enough to keep at it, but maybe persistent enough is a more apt description.
I guess you already had the Saturday vague plans, huh? How did it go?
And if you're worried about perhaps being overly-friendly with him when you first met and that that might be why he's calling (don't know that for sure, just an inference from your post), he's definitely putting in a lot of effort in talking to you, so I'd be willing to bet he's not looking for just that. (All guys are looking for that but he's probably into you for more than just that.)
Now that you've got me all intrigued and sh*t, what happened?
i will never understand boyspeak. as of friday we were tentatively supposed to "hang-out" on sat. which i understood to mean that we'd meet up for a drink or something like later on in the evening. but "hang-out" ends up being a date. he actually used the word date. (and not in that "oh it's a date" sense) which caught me off guard -- totally wasn't expecting that. not that it really makes a difference, but somehow a date sounds much more formal/important than just hanging out.
anyway the date went pretty well (though i think i might be the only person in the world who doesn't care for italian food) except we got a bad bottle of wine and i *think* the waitress was flirting with him. (bluebirde -- the hostess totally gave him the winelist. which was funny b/c i didn't notice until he asked what i was thinking as far as wine, and then it was like, oh you don't have a winelist). the restaurant was really, really pretty, and we ate outside since it was such a nice night. so overall it went well which was nice and unexpected. -- not that i thought it would go poorly, but again i was not expecting a date.
as far as the most important question...do i like him? does it make me a bad person if i don't know? not that i dislike him, and i definitely think he's interesting, and he's got that whole dorky/cute thing going for him, which i find adorable... but do i like him, like him? i'm not sure... i guess i should try and figure that out.
I'm glad your date went well Honey. As to whether or not you like him, like him. Don't worry about that now. You don't have to know right now. Just be patient and you will figure it out soon enough.
quote: Originally posted by: honey "i will never understand boyspeak. as of friday we were tentatively supposed to "hang-out" on sat. which i understood to mean that we'd meet up for a drink or something like later on in the evening. but "hang-out" ends up being a date. he actually used the word date. (and not in that "oh it's a date" sense) which caught me off guard -- totally wasn't expecting that. not that it really makes a difference, but somehow a date sounds much more formal/important than just hanging out. anyway the date went pretty well (though i think i might be the only person in the world who doesn't care for italian food) except we got a bad bottle of wine and i *think* the waitress was flirting with him. (bluebirde -- the hostess totally gave him the winelist. which was funny b/c i didn't notice until he asked what i was thinking as far as wine, and then it was like, oh you don't have a winelist). the restaurant was really, really pretty, and we ate outside since it was such a nice night. so overall it went well which was nice and unexpected. -- not that i thought it would go poorly, but again i was not expecting a date. as far as the most important question...do i like him? does it make me a bad person if i don't know? not that i dislike him, and i definitely think he's interesting, and he's got that whole dorky/cute thing going for him, which i find adorable... but do i like him, like him? i'm not sure... i guess i should try and figure that out.-- Edited by honey at 11:45, 2005-05-09"
First off, that wine list thing made me crack up here in my office. (They're doing interviews in the conference room next door so I'm sure I'll here it afterwards but I don't care.) See? It sucks, huh?
As far as liking him, it totally does not make you a bad person. The majority of the time, my feelings are so ambivalent towards a guy that a good/bad date can push me either way. And you certainly don't have to know how you feel after one "date." If that's indeed what we're calling it these days. Boys are weird, you're right. I consider vague plans as meeting for a drink, too, not the whole dinner/movie thing. I have to mentally prepare myself - and my potential wardrobe - for things like that. Meeting for a drink is much less stress-inducing. (whether i like the guy or not)
I know some people think that if you don't feel strongly about a person, it's indicitave of whether or not it'll ultimately work out, be successful, etc., but I don't agree with that. Any relationship I've ever had started out with me either being friends, being ambivilant, or in some cases, actually disliking the guy first. Feelings are a process. They come, they go, they flight, they stay, and eventually you'll know if you like a person or not. The only thing that matters for right then and there is whether or not he's a good guy and if you might let him kiss you at the end of the date.
Yay honey! I am glad everything went well. I think the fact that it turned out to be a real dinner date is a nice surprise. As for not knowing whether or not you really really like him, that's tough but I think you should just see what happens. I have always been of the mind that I can tell right away whether or not I will click with a boy but I have recently proved myself wrong.
quote: Originally posted by: cc "I think our spinster group is splintering "
Wait. Who? What? I was never aware of this spinster group. Are their dues? An initial hazing period? 'Cause I totally wanna join. One more thought - why the term spinster? It sounds sooo... negative. How about the "fabulously single" group? Or the "femme, not men" group? Here are some other thoughts:
We prefer the term intelligensia We're not single, we're non-conformists So many boys, why choose just one? We prefer multiples
quote: Originally posted by: blubirde " Wait. Who? What? I was never aware of this spinster group. Are their dues? An initial hazing period? 'Cause I totally wanna join. One more thought - why the term spinster? It sounds sooo... negative. How about the "fabulously single" group? Or the "femme, not men" group? Here are some other thoughts: We prefer the term intelligensia We're not single, we're non-conformists So many boys, why choose just one? We prefer multiples "
Hahaha! I don't want to out the members without their permission but it was basically a teeny group of us who were/are perpetually single and rarely (or in my case never) dated. So there wasn't any fabulous SATC sort of singleness going on nor any multiples. Unless multiple unrequited crushes count. I know you are really excited at the prospect of joining but you seem to have to too much boy action going on to count as a spinster!
quote: Originally posted by: cc " Hahaha! I don't want to out the members without their permission but it was basically a teeny group of us who were/are perpetually single and rarely (or in my case never) dated. So there wasn't any fabulous SATC sort of singleness going on nor any multiples. Unless multiple unrequited crushes count. I know you are really excited at the prospect of joining but you seem to have to too much boy action going on to count as a spinster! "
Awwwww.... Rejection lives everywhere doesn't it? I'm not "relationship" enough to get invited to couples' dinners and I'm not "single" enough to be in the spinster group. Man, oh man. How's that for karma kicking my ass for having all "the sex"? So be it. I accept my non-invitation as such and will cry alone in my room. I'll be thinking about you and how I can't be with you. (sniffle) Unrequited, indeed.
quote: Originally posted by: blubirde "Awwwww.... Rejection lives everywhere doesn't it? I'm not "relationship" enough to get invited to couples' dinners and I'm not "single" enough to be in the spinster group. Man, oh man. How's that for karma kicking my ass for having all "the sex"? So be it. I accept my non-invitation as such and will cry alone in my room. I'll be thinking about you and how I can't be with you. (sniffle) Unrequited, indeed. "
Don't be sad! I just didn't think this was the sort of club you would want to join. I mean no interactions with boys other than friendships and crushes....not always that much fun! You are doing the fabulous single thing.
Besides, it seems that between honey and her dinner date and me finding a boy who only lives on another continent our spinster group is finally getting some action!
quote: Originally posted by: cc " Don't be sad! I just didn't think this was the sort of club you would want to join. I mean no interactions with boys other than friendships and crushes....not always that much fun! You are doing the fabulous single thing. Besides, it seems that between honey and her dinner date and me finding a boy who only lives on another continent our spinster group is finally getting some action! PS honey, sorry to hijak your thread!"
Yeah, honey, sorry to hijack your thread!
No prob cc. I've holed up in my office with my secret bottle of jack and he and I are planning an afternoon of unbridled... um, hurling? and then we'll sleep together, wrapped in each other's warm embrace, oblivious to the outside world and all its awful, evil rejections.
On a side note, hooray to honey for quitting the spinster group!
yeah, and i am still representing for the spinsters.
blubirde--it was more of a tongue-in-cheek club name, and it's a very loosely associated club! i think i made it up (i don't even remember now) but anyway, i just think spinster is a funny word and it makes me laugh because none of us are really spinsters. anyway, you are welcome to join us! no dating!
honey--i am glad that you went on a date, and i agree w/the others who said just give it some time. this is the good part, enjoy it!