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Marc Jacobs

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Sorry this is so freaking long....its like an essay...

I know what we need to do....but I dont think its going to happen...so I guess I'm just venting....

I'm sick of putting our plans on hold because of DH's family.  I know all families have issues sometimes and I'm all for being there for each other, but I think this is too much! I came from a pretty grounded family while DH's was the complete opposite, so maybe I need to be more versatile.

So here's the deal...as y'all know we were supposed to move to AZ this month...settle in...buy a place later this year.  I was going to put in my notice @ work in April, it was going to work out great as my management role transitioned to Europe and I was no longer stressed about finding/training my replacement.  Also, our apt. lease was up and this was the time to move w/o paying a penalty...and DD is not is school yet so its so much easier to move b4 she makes friends, etc.  So late February, MIL's DH was having some problems and decides to move back to his home country.  DH and 19 & 21 yr old brothers felt DH's youngest 9yr old was better off getting an education here and was best not to be split up from his siblings.  Fine.  So we decided to push our plans to move to AZ until Sept, move in to MILs house, make the place nice and take 9 yr old BIL under our care. 

So in the 6-7 mth period we are staying in CA supposedly DH's brothers are going to get their finances and whatever in order so when we moved to AZ they could afford to stay at MIL's house.  The rent is half, yes HALF of what you will find anywhere in a nice neighborhood in So. Cali.  What we pay for rent you pay to rent a room in someone else house around here.  I thought it would be a win-win kinda deal since moving into MIL's house meant we could save more $ towards our move and BILs wouldnt have to move out.  So the 1st months rent is due and DH tells me his brothers either had to pay thier cars that week or some other lame reason for not having their part of the rent.  Fine. Whatever, they're young, they're adjusting since they never helped MIL w/any of the finances this is a change.  The problem is this has happened ever since....I pay all the utility bills, the groceries (these boys dont just eat...they devaour a huge cereal box in 2 days..not kidding) AND when I'm not working late or going to school, I make dinner for EVERYONE.  DH pays the rent PLUS gives them money for gas and their portion of the rent.  Fine...again. They are his brothers.

The next thing is that they have no respect for me & DD.  When I dont cook they will let the dishes pile up in the sick.  The bedrooms are really small so I had put my wood mirror stand against the wall in the living room until DH made his next trip to our storage.  It was not in the way of anyone's path, but I found it outside along with a frame.  And it rained and somehow some white paint stuff got all over my frame.  DD also has a shoebox sized bucket w/her bath toys in the corner of the bath....again in no ones way....and they also threw it outside!  She's not allowed to have ANY toys in the living room, she left ONE doll once and I heard it slam against the wall when they found it. 

DH decided to make a cleaning schedule, we would all take turns weekly to clean the house and they mentioned how DD & me were making the house messy by leaving toys or my Zappos boxes biggrin in the living room.  They made it very clear not ONE thing needs to be left, I need to put it in my room or its going outside.  They actually threw out my drapes and a lamp I had placed outside to take to storage.  On the 21 yr old brother's week to clean...he did absolutely nothing.  If any of you girls have ever lived with guys, OMG the bathroom is filthy gross, I had to clean all that crap off on my week.  DH and I went camping this weekend and I took Friday off work to make sure I stayed on the cleaning schedule.  We came back Monday and the house was nasty, there were dirty dishes mixed with clean ones, the trash was overflowing, and the bathroom had hair all over the sink from shaving and the toilet had pee stains.  Not only that put they went into our bedroom found my spare car key and moved my car from the driveway and parked it in the street!  I have no problem parking in the street except when we're out of town!  DH confronted them about it, I dont know exactly what was said...I was so mad I had to leave.

One more financial thing...yes there's more....now they want to go back to school...the catch?  They dont want to work and go to school, they want to quit their jobs and go to school full time and want DH to take over the payments on the car/insurance. DH actually considered doing it!!! I had to talk him out of it.  When my brother decided to get a FT job, he switched his day classes to evening...its possible! 

So after all this...we have spent just about the same amt of $ we would have spent if we just would have stayed at our old apt and moved to AZ as planned.  Now our plans to AZ are on hold AGAIN due to my BILs living off of us!  DH keeps theatening kicking them out, but I highly doubt they would leave. GRRRR! I'm just so sick of it now I just come home and go straight to our room and dont come out until the nxt day to go to work.  Its horrible!

-- Edited by BargainQueen at 17:14, 2007-05-31

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Kate Spade

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OMG!! You need a hug and a martini for dealing with all that. DH's brothers need to grow up, but you know that. You said it yourself, you know what needs to happen. I just wanted to tell you I feel for you, thats sounds awful.
((((hugs))))

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Marc Jacobs

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wow that is a nightmare! I dont really even know what to say ....

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OMG!!! This is just like my family! My two girls and I live with my parents and so do both my brothers who are 23 and 21. They seem to be a lot like your BIL's. They want to live off of my parents and even me for as long as they can! Both of them don't work and the older one is only going to school because I practically dragged him with me. They are both slobs. The bathroom gets nasty with their little hairs all over the sink and they have bad aim and I'm the one who ends up cleaning it all up. They won't help clean up the rest of the house either claiming none of the messes are theirs. They won't even help our dad do outdoor work. When I was working I contributed money to the household but they always kept their paychecks to themselves. And I'm the only one who will make dinner too. The younger one has a big temper and is very disrespectful to our mom. I wish they'd get kicked out of the house, but my dad won't do it even after my mom requested it.
Try your best to get your BIL's kicked out! They are taking advantage of you and your husband. They are adults and they need to act like it. They are responsible for their own finances. Guys like this should be ashamed of themselves!

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that sounds really frustrating and upsetting, i hope it gets sorted so you don't have to keep putting your plans on hold for people who don't appreciate it

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that sounds awful. they are being so disrespectful and selfish towards you and your family. is there any way you can move out of there sooner rather than later?

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Your situation sounds mortifying.  I don't blame you one bit for baracading yourself in the room at nights, I'm sure I would too. 

I once had a really bad roomate situation that made me stay out of the apt. whenever I could, and when I would go back home I would get this pit in my stomach and this awful feeling.  The feeling I had when moving out was beyond elation, it was the biggest weight ever lifted from my shoulders.

If I were you, I would convince DH to move to AZ and leave the boys with the house.  If they lose it, it's their fault, and if they can't take care of the 9 year old, I would give him the choice of moving to where his mother lives, or coming to AZ with you. 

At 18 years old I was self sufficient, and I cannot imagine four years after that still leaching off of other people for support.  You should be totally self sufficient by 21!



-- Edited by Drew at 11:14, 2007-06-01

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Wait a minute. YOU pay all the bills and COOK for them and they're dictating to you what you can keep in the house??? Am I not understanding this right? How do they get to make the rules?? This situation sounds way out of hand to me.

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I agree with Drew - you need to talk to DH and discuss going to AZ and leaving them on their own. They'll never learn how to take care of themselves if you keep doing everything for them. They sound like spoiled, selfish brats. I really can't believe they treat you like that when you do so much for them. They are definitely old enough to live on their own (with the exception of the 9 year old of course - you should take him with you or send him to his mom).

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Drew wrote:

 



If I were you, I would convince DH to move to AZ and leave the boys with the house. If they lose it, it's their fault, and if they can't take care of the 9 year old, I would give him the choice of moving to where his mother lives, or coming to AZ with you.

At 18 years old I was self sufficient, and I cannot imagine four years after that still leaching off of other people for support. You should be totally self sufficient by 21!



-- Edited by Drew at 11:14, 2007-06-01

 




 Good advice!!


In rethinking this, I too was only 18 living on my own and self sufficient. It was hard and I was poor but hey you deal with it and find a way. Your not there parents , heck there not kids there ADULTS and this continued taking advantage of you is totally unacceptable.



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the slamming the doll against the wall thing sounds sort of alarming. I agree with the others -- the sooner you get your daughter out of that situation, the better.

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halleybird wrote:

the slamming the doll against the wall thing sounds sort of alarming. I agree with the others -- the sooner you get your daughter out of that situation, the better.



good catch -- i agree, that is alarming. 

 



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OMG! I do not know how you are living like this. Those boys have got to go. They sound completely spoiled. I cannot believe they have the balls to think they can decide what can and can't be in the house when they aren't paying a dime of the expenses.

I agree w/ the suggestion that you, DH, and DD get on w/ your own lives. You should go ahead and move to Arizona. Take the 9 yr old bro with you. You've agreed to take the 9 year old under your care, which is very generous of you. You didn't agree to become parents to two adults.

I think you and DH should agree on your timeline and stick with it. Tell the two brothers. that you are moving out on X date and start making your plans. The sooner the better. I'm sure that when push comes to shove they'll get their shit together.

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That is not acceptable at all. What an awful situation to be in.
I agree with the other girls,you and DH need to find a way to move to AZ.
Let his brothers fend for themselves.

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Those boys are being so ridiculous, the story is almost laughable, except that you are actually living it.  Just think, you will be so relieved when it's over, and it will be over soon I am sure.  Hopefully you and your family will be able to leave the BILs behind while you can still look back and laugh (and shudder) about it.

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oh my goodness!!! *****hugs*****

I have zero tolerance for people that are around the age of your BILs acting so irresponsibly. I think you, DH, and DD should move to AZ sooner rather than later and let the older BILs fend for themselves.

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WHAT!

I don't know what I can say that hasn't already been said. I cannot believe that they have the balls to act like such asses. At first I thought "okay, 19 and 21, that's pretty old but I can see how they might still need financial help." I'm 21 and I still take help from my parents sometimes when times are really bad. BUT if they're not even in school anymore I can't even think of any kind of excuse that they could come up with as to why they should continue to live off of you and DH. WHAT do they spend all of their money on??? I know they're his brothers and he wants to take care of them and protect them, but they are being RIDICULOUS and taking advantage of your family completely. I cannot believe they are trying to maintain power (by dictating the rules, moving your car, etc) when they have absolutely no claim to it. I'm so sorry that you're in such a horrible situation. I hope you get out of there and get to AZ - Fast!

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Oh, I am sorry they are being such jerks.  I hope you can move to AZ and get on with your life soon!  I'm going to send positive energy that they shape up soon!!!

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Oooh this kind of crap pisses me off!  You have NO financial obligation to those boys.  Looks like those boys set the rules when you pay and clean up after them!   Not a good situation for YOUR child which is most important.  

I say move to AZ already, I'd take the 9 year old boy though because he is better off with you.  The other boys can get a lesson in life!   


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