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Chanel

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D wrote:

If it were me, hmmm. I would probably list the experience, use the explanation you were planning on using (laid off due loss of business, not eliminated position), and just hope they don't actually contact him or scrutinize the site you used to work on. That's what I would do, but I'm sure others will have some valuable input as well. 



 I was thinking about this one, and what they told me when I was laid off was that they were "eliminating my position." Those were their exact words. They said it had nothing to do with my quality of work and I had done nothing wrong; the CEO just wanted to do my job. So, to say it was about lack of business isn't true PLUS they have open positions listed on their Facebook page and they just got on the Inc 500 list of fastest growing companies. So I feel l like I can't win here if a  potential employer tries to research anything.

And the person who has my old title appears to be working client-side only, not corporate side with client side as-needed (which is what I was); it's pretty apparent that the CEO and COO are the marketing ring-leaders for the actual company. But that's not something a prospective employer could deduce.

I just don't want a potential employer to think I'm lying about getting laid off because the way they've made everything look at this point, it looks like I was fired and I was NOT (at least that's not what they told ME). But the longer time goes on, the more I see how pre-meditated and caclulated this whole fiasco was (I had a feeling something bad was going to go down when the COO started because I got a bad feeling about her and you know, the CEO told me to "watch my back because doesn't like you" after she met me once for 5 minutes. I had been planning on trying to look for something else but figured I'd have more than a week after she started (she started working 60 days after she accepted the offer, so she and the CEO had several meetings prior to her actual start date).

Any specific thoughts about that anyone? I guess the best I can do is hope they don't contact him. Sorry for the long vent; this is just a terrible scenario for me and I did nothing to deserve it.



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Is there any way that you can say that your position was eliminated, and that they split your previous position into two new positions? One that the CEO absorbed as it was something he was interested in, and the second, client side position? From my understanding, it wouldn'ty be too misleading, plus it shows you were doing the work of 2 people...



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It is a bad situation, and you're right -- you don't deseve this. I have been in some bad work situations too, and I have recovered.

I agree - the best you can hope for is that they don't contact him.

The worst situation I found myself in was when a new employer tried to confirm my info on my application (they were sticklers about this, and they even warned me ahead of time.) I was very cautious to provide very accurate past employment and education information and my exact income from previous employers on the application. I was already in the job a couple of days and I got a call from HR telling me my previous employer informed them that my income was different from what I put on the application. HR was telling me they basically had to let me go. I was mortified. I ended up having to show the new employer all my pay stubs from the previous job to prove I was telling the truth. It was a horrible, horrible, awkward situation and to this day, I think the former employer did that out of spite. It certainly didn't give a good impression of me, even though I did nothing wrong and proved it.

Bottom line - for people like you and I, working for other people will always suck. Always. But, it's part of the game of life. One day, you won't have to rely on employers for income and you'll have your own business. Just keep that in mind as you pay your dues

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greendiamond wrote:

Is there any way that you can say that your position was eliminated, and that they split your previous position into two new positions? One that the CEO absorbed as it was something he was interested in, and the second, client side position? From my understanding, it wouldn'ty be too misleading, plus it shows you were doing the work of 2 people...


 

This would be a good explanation if they ever question the elimination of the position. Another thing to throw in there is that it was cheaper for them to divide the responsibilities of the position among a couple of entry-level employees to save money.  A common practice these days.  Strategy responsibilities become the responsibility of the entry-level employees manager.



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Could you also say that your former position was redefined? That would explain why the title stayed the same but the duties are different (you mentioned that the new person is more client orientated than what you did in that position.)

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Chanel

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greendiamond wrote:

Is there any way that you can say that your position was eliminated, and that they split your previous position into two new positions? One that the CEO absorbed as it was something he was interested in, and the second, client side position? From my understanding, it wouldn'ty be too misleading, plus it shows you were doing the work of 2 people...


 This is a really good suggestion because that's actually what happened. I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me to use that as the explanation. Thanks, gd!

 

D wrote:

It is a bad situation, and you're right -- you don't deseve this. I have been in some bad work situations too, and I have recovered.

I agree - the best you can hope for is that they don't contact him. 

The worst situation I found myself in was when a new employer tried to confirm my info on my application (they were sticklers about this, and they even warned me ahead of time.) I was very cautious to provide very accurate past employment and education information and my exact income from previous employers on the application. I was already in the job a couple of days and I got a call from HR telling me my previous employer informed them that my income was different from what I put on the application. HR was telling me they basically had to let me go. I was mortified. I ended up having to show the new employer all my pay stubs from the previous job to prove I was telling the truth. It was a horrible, horrible, awkward situation and to this day, I think the former employer did that out of spite. It certainly didn't give a good impression of me, even though I did nothing wrong and proved it.

Bottom line - for people like you and I, working for other people will always suck. Always. But, it's part of the game of life. One day, you won't have to rely on employers for income and you'll have your own business. Just keep that in mind as you pay your dues


Ugh, D, that's a terrible work situation. I just don't get the need some people have to be so spiteful. I am so anxiously awaiting the day when I'm the employer; it really is what keeps me going through all this crap. 

 

Boots wrote:

Could you also say that your former position was redefined? That would explain why the title stayed the same but the duties are different (you mentioned that the new person is more client orientated than what you did in that position.)


 This is also good- I can just add that to the explanation gd mentioned and hopefully it will be okay. And hopefully, no one bothers to contact these jokers. 



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